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From: Martha Fanning

To: swiftwater@lenapedelawarehistory.net

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:57 AM

Subject: from Martha Newcomb Fanning re Stockbridge/Munsee/Delaware

Dear Mr. Hahn,

I hate to impose on you. I'm hoping you can and will give me some pointers on where, and how to search next.

I've been trying to find out who my Great. Grandfather, John W. Newcum/Newcom/Newcomb, born 1833-1836 was, who his parents were, and where he came from.

He showed up in Texas, in Palo Pinto County, and joined the Civil War there. On his Civil War records his name was spelled Newcon.

My family history, such as there is, is that he and 2 brothers fled a murder of a *Federal officer/soldier* about 1847-1849, either to Indian Territory, or he caught a ride with a wagon train to Texas.

Searching for him, I found that it is said that *his father was thought to be a Frenchman, and his Mother was Cherokee*. It's said that he *had a brother named Sam, a brother named Alec, and a sister named Minnie, who married a Johnson*, and that he had a brother who lived in I.T. who married a Cherokee woman called *Black Jane*.

I looked at one John W. Newcom (Stockbridge), on the Kansas Reserve, and I need more info. on Widow Newcom, a William Newcom, who was Munsee, & a, from memory, I think a Ne con he Newcom from the Kansas Reserve.

I contacted the Stockbridge-Munsee, trying to find records, not to try to enroll, and Shelia Powless told me to look for the Stevens Roll. I contacted the National Archives in Washington D.C., and they said they have record that the Stevens Roll exists, but they couldn't find it.

I emailed the Cherokee Nation, at the suggestion of Jessica, who is affiliated with the Kansas Delaware, asking someone at the Cherokee Nation to do a look-up for me...I don't think they're going to get back to me.

My Mother once spoke with W.W. Newcomb. He looked and couldn't find my ancestor in his Newcomb book...maybe just poor records, but he said he thought our family came from the Newcombs in I. T. who ran with the Delaware.

My g. Grandfather gave contradicting info. on the 1880 & 1900 census. 1. said he was born in Kansas, his Father born in New York State, and his Mother born in Canada, then changed it to 2. he was born in Missouri, and both his parents born in the U.S.

I know he could not read or write, and neither could my Grandfather who went to work when he was 8 years old, and my Dad had only a 3'rd grade education.

I have a 70 yr. old cousin, who has also looked for years. She went to Lawrence, Kansas, and to Platte Co. Missouri looking, I'm 58 yrs. old.

If you could, and would just give me some pointers on where & how to look further, I would be most grateful.

Sincerely,

Martha N. Fanning

P.O. Box 273

Lueders, Texas 79533

Name: Bill
EMail: bill.pirkle@sbcglobal.net
Home: Dallas, TX
Tribe: None Comments. Help Please. I am doing some research for my girlfriend. She was adopted right after birth (Oct 22, 1974) in OK. She knows her last name was Ketchum, but cannot find out much more than that. She would like to see what her parents looked like and discover any health issues history she may have. Does anyone have any advice on how to find out this information? All doors seem to have closed in her face. Thanks and best regards.

I have been searching for information on Chief Anderson. My grandmother was Elsie Anderson and I believe she was originally from Summitville, Indiana. i have traced back to Asa Anderson who was a relative of Chief Wm. Anderson. Any info on my search would be greatly appreciated. you may contact me at sesw@sbcglobal.net. great site. thanks. Emily Welches , Indiana Tribe: Delaware

The following was on INDIAN-ROOTS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU from dllove@banet.net on 27 January 2001.

Is there anyone on the list who is researching Lenape/Delaware family?
I have two different families I think may be Lenape but I haven't gotten
to the point of researching for verification yet.

One family is that of Adam Baker born 1834 in Shenandoah Co., VA. I need to verify that his father's name was Abraham, and not Absalom as I was told, and then identify the correct Abraham from the other ones I've found. Adam's mother still may have been Sarah born in New Jersey. Adam married Elizabeth Speaker in Licking Co., OH, in 1854 and they lived in Paulding, Putnam and Van Wert counties in the same state. I don't know if the Baker name is as common among native people as it is with European, but I was intrigued to find that there is a Lenape bead worker by the name of Joe Baker. It is a little difficult to tell, but it's possible that at one time Adam and Elizabeth may have been identified as non-white on the census. I have photos of both and of one son in particular that seem to support native ancestry.

In the other family I also have to establish an identity, that of the mother. My great-grandmother was Margaret Gatton, who married Adam Baker's son Andrew. She and her parents were identified as non-white on the 1850 census in Ohio. Her mother's first name was Emaline, born ca 1816 in Ohio. I think she had a previous husband with the last name of Devore and her maiden name was Berryman and need to verify this. Her mother may have been Rachel Berryman, born ca 1784 in New Jersey. Margaret had three half-sisters with the last name of Devore. The Baker and Gatton families also seemed to have ties to non-white families named Dennison and Sunderland in northwest Ohio. I have a photo of Margaret and she was definitely native.

I have to do further genealogical research and historical research as to location and time, etc., before I feel comfortable in saying that any of these people were Lenape. I'm well aware that other native peoples were living in Virginia and New Jersey as well. Debbie Winchell, Troy, New York

Seeking information on R. C. Taylor born ca. 1790-1795. He operated a sawmill in Leavenworth in Kansas Territory ca. 1840-1850. R. C. Taylor is the father of Betsy Zigler. Contact descendant Arlene Micucci AM17000@aol.com .

Betsy Wilaquenaho was born about 1797 in Pennsylvania or Ohio. Betsy married the Indian Trader, William Marshall. She and William Marshall migrated from Ohio to Southwest Missouri. She then went with William or with her family to the Delaware Reserve, present Kansas, about 1832. Betsy went to Indian Territory after 1867 and probably died there about 1875. Seeking the documentation of her connection with the Ketchum family or any other family. Also seeking the death and burial data of William Marshall. Contact descendant Tom Swiftwater Hahn Email: swiftwater@lenapedelawarehistory.net or descendant Vickie Wilkins bvw77808@yahoo.com

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